March 17, 2005

I don't do windows.

I actually had a salesman refuse to sell to me today. I'm so proud.

Background: I've still got this cold/allergies/whatever. so I stayed home sick today to see if rest would help. This meant I got to be the one to see with the window salesman Rudder had scheduled for today. We'd already gotten bids from two other companies; Rudder had worked with those. I think this guy had insisted on being last.

He showed up and spent a lot of time trying to convince me that his were fine products of their kind and were far better than our existing windows. He's entirely right, of course, this being why we asked him to come give us a bid in the first place. (I may have rolled my eyes at this point, because I didn't need to know why we needed new windows but why we needed his windows in particular.) He told me his windows were far better than any of the competitors, and that their price was better, but he had no numbers to compare to the others. He did say the numbers were on the window manufacturers' webpages. He measured all of our windows and started talking about prices. Then he started doing the used-car salesman "What would it take to get you to make this decision immediately" bit. When I told him I wasn't going to decide right away because I don't do that on multi-thousand-dollar deals, as a matter of policy, he started getting a little upset. I think he assumed I wasn't deciding because Rudder wasn't here. I told him Rudder would have said the same thing. (True.) I also told him I wouldn't decide without looking up his windows' data on the Web, since he didn't have it, and that we weren't sure whether we wanted to do this instantly or wait a few months, which is also true.

At that point he decided he didn't want to deal with me because it was "evident I didn't trust him", and refused to write out the prices he had previously mentioned in an actual bid. (Also, when he was going to write them out, it was apparently going to be handwriting on lined paper, instead of a form listing exactly what he was offering, as we've seen with bids on other house improvements.) Well, duh I don't trust him. I've never met him before and know nothing about his company. I don't distrust him either (or rather, I didn't before) but I am certainly not going to fork over a few thousand dollars without checking actual data.

I am still going to look up his windows' data, however. I can only assume his reluctance to share it means he's got an inferior product. And if that's not the case, I may well write a letter to the company's owner. I haven't counted how many ways he insulted me/us, but there are definitely a few. Let's see: getting upset at dealing with me instead of Rudder (not sure if this is sexism or assuming we don't trust each other, but either way I don't like it). Pressuring me to make an instant decision. Wanting me to trust him with no accompanying data. Comparing his window to the existing ones instead of a competitors'. Getting upset when I asked him a couple of times about things other installers had said would be problematic (like the windows with no border from our stucco or the one touching a kitchen counter) despite not being an installer himself. Asking me to feel how strong his windows are. (Sorry, my built-in sensors aren't that accurate - can I use a baseball bat?) I think I'm better off without him.

Posted by dichroic at March 17, 2005 04:39 PM
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Sensing a fishy smell to the whole deal. Make a "decision now," and "What would it take . . . ." have always been very red, waving flags to me.

Posted by: Denver doug at March 17, 2005 06:18 PM

As a former sales professional and a damn good one, I found that guy's pitch nauseating. Unethical, unprofessional,and yes, very insulting. It's inept flim-flam artists like that guy who stink up the rep of all salespeople. No reputable company would insist on such skeezy tactics. My goodness you're patient. I would have had him out the door long before he got to the "You don't trust me" part. Bleh. On the off chance the guy is a bad seed for a good company your letter will be an eye opener. Good show, my friend. ~LA

Posted by: LA at March 17, 2005 08:05 PM

Ew. EWWWW. Doug's right, the guy reeks of someone who doesn't believe in his own product.

Posted by: mechaieh at March 18, 2005 01:46 AM

Ugh, I hate salesmen like this...they get sent on courses sometimes here in the UK by certain companies to *learn* how to do the hard sell...It makes me so mad because then they try and target people who're likely to cave in such as the elderly/infirm.
Glad you got rid of him. Glad your cat came back too! And your edition of LOTR sounds really lovely. I love books that are both nice to read and nice to hold. I bet it smells really nice too!

Posted by: ruthie at March 18, 2005 01:50 PM
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