Here's a plan that's been fermenting in my head for a while, though I've been thinking about it more since the election. I don't understand why the government should have anything to do with marriage as a sacred rite. If it's "sacred", how can it be relevant to a state proclaiming its separation from any and all churches? Rudder and I had no problems getting married - there's one of us of each sex, both of us are US citizens, neither had been married before, neither had syphilis (we were married in Pennsylvania, where they test for syphilis - but not (at that time) AIDS) and so on. We had to go to the registrar, tell them our parents names and where they were born, go through an odd rigmarole to get our blood tested because we were living in another state, and then a few months later we had to pay an additional $1000 in taxes beyond what we would have aid if we'd just been living together.
I don't understand any of it - no, that's not true. I understand why the government needs to be involved when it's about to hand out a bunch of new rights, like right of survivorship, right to visit in hospitals, rights to make decisions for each other. common proprty in some states, and (putative) tax benefits (that turned out to be penalties in our case). What I don't understand is why any of that would need to be coupled (oops) to what a lot of people currently in government keep describing as the sacred union of a man and a woman.
Clearly we need to legislate civil partnerships - give declared partners tax benefits and rights of survivorship and next-of-kin and so on. But why should that privilege be limited to hitherto-unrelated pairings of one man and one woman? Instead, we could let *any* two people who intend to spend the rest of their lives declare themselves partners, not just straights and not even just romantic couples.
For instance, when their husbands died in the 1918 influenza epidempic and World War I, my great-grandmother and her sister moved into together. They raised their children as one family, and they stayed together a long time, until my grandmother was grown up and my great-grandmother remarried. I cannot see any logical or moral reason why those two sisters should not have had the same benefits a married couple could have had. Under today's laws they'd have gotten some of the tax breaks by filing head-of-household, and might have been able to claim to be each others' next of kin, but what if they had been unrelated friends rather than sisters? Or what if one had died and other siblings had wanted to split proceeds from a house the two had lived in?
This will only work if the partnerships are long-term, Restrict them any way you want - require people to be in only one civil partnership at a time, require cohabitation, make it difficult to get out of to discourage easy "divorce", whatever. That's fine. But don't restrict any unpartnered adult from entering into a partnership with anyone she chooses.
That leaves "marriage", as a religious rite joining two people in romantic love, just where it belongs, in the churches, synagogues, temples, mosques, meeting-houses, and so on. No religion should be forced to marry anyone they don't approve of, but conversely anyone who did want a religious wedding should be able to find someone to perform it.
The beauty of this system is that it ought to be hard for anyone to disapprove of it. (What? You want two little old ladies on Social Security not to have the benefits a million-dollar sports star and his wife can have??) The only flaw I can see is that it wouldn't help people who want to form families with more than one other adult - again, not necessarily polyamorists, but potentially also, say, a daughter living with her elderly parents. It would seem any number of people should be able to form a partnership, but not only would that likely not fly past at least 11 states I can think of offhand, it could also create some nasty situations when more than one person claims the right to make decisions in cases of incapacitation. ("What do you mean, you approved donating her heart after the fatal accident? I planned to have it bronzed and keep it under my pillow forever!") So for practical purposes, it may need to be limited to pairs of people, and larger families would just have to aggregate in even numbers.
Posted by dichroic at November 8, 2004 03:27 PMFor the record, I am pro gay marriage. That said, I agree completely, and, yes, a lot more people would support civil unions limited to two people of any gender combination than do people support two people of the same gender getting married. Marriage should be a religious ceremony, left to each religion to dole out by whatever standards they deem fit, and the only way in which government should be involved is to give out only civil unions across the board for anyone (civil unions with the same legal rights as marriage has now). The government should not be involved in a religious sacrament, it should only be involved in the legalities of a union between two people who want, say, cohabitation, beneficiary rights, shared health insurance, hospital visitation rights, equal parenting rights, etc, etc. I mean, I know several gay couples who have been married for quite some time religiously, they just can't, say, be assured that they'll be able to visit one another in the hospital, for instance. HOWEVER. Marriage as a state institution is... well... such an *institution* that I don't believe many people would ever support its replacement by something else even if that something else gives all of the exact same rights. And, honestly, having been an evangelical fundamentalist Christian for over a year in the past, I know there is a large portion of the citizenry in this country who would never ever ever stand for even that, who would scream about being "reduced" to the level of those "amoral, sinning sodomites," their blessed union endorsed by God and the state sullied by association on any level with just "any old people who decide to shack up together." Oh, you know how things can be spun and spun and spun! So, in short, I think that your idea is a wonderful idea, one that I have believed in for a long, long time, but I do not see it as something that would ever be passed and accepted in this country, not for a long time, anyway. Marriage is a system and legal process so entrenched... I just see the process of replacing it with something else, by name and with slight changes to definition, as quite unlikely. I think it's much more likely that same-sex couples will slowly gain the right to marriage than our country would be willing to adopt a whole new system. (And, for the record, a ton of people are arguing that gays should be allowed civil unions, as they stand, and marriage should be reserved for heterosexual couples. But the problem with that is that civil unions do not afford the same rights as marriages do. It's not the same, and unless civil unions are elevated to allow exactly the same rights as marriage, I don't accept that as a fair solution either). Wow, this is a book. I hope I'm making sense. And, who knows, I could be completely wrong about the likelihood of such a system going into effect. Who knows.
Posted by: Melissa at November 8, 2004 07:14 PM(Oh, and if the eleven states that you're thinking of are the ones who had amendments in this election, they're certainly not the only ones. NC, for instance, already has that amendment in its constitution. *sigh*)
Posted by: Melissa at November 8, 2004 07:18 PMThere was a discussion about polyamory over at Philocrites' a while back where I talked a bit about a similar scheme. Unfortunately, the very idea of civil relationships being defined on a purely contractual basis seems to draw out an all-or-nothing response -- something along the lines of "if you honestly believe society should go that route, then you should be opposed to ALL civil marriages for consistency's sake." (My own position being that the concept of "marriage" does carry secular as well as sacred weight, and I don't see why the civil variant needs to be jettisoned in order to recognize non-traditional households.)
Posted by: mechaieh at November 9, 2004 06:05 PM(The discussion referenced above is at
http://www.philocrites.com/archives/000906.html#827 )
Posted by: mechaieh at November 9, 2004 06:07 PMThat's precisely what I've been thinking.
Posted by: Naomi at November 13, 2004 09:29 PM